Minutes of 07/16/09 Meeting Mt. Adams District Collaboration Group Field Trip (EASTSIDE) 0915 - 1015 – LaRoux Timber Sale (6605 Rd.) – View a density reduction sale currently being logged. Talk about criteria for selecting potential thinning areas, relative density guidelines for thinning, benefits for other resources (i.e. golden chinquapin that were daylighted for release). [Spencer's notes: LaRoux timber sale (Matrix?) - proposed in the 1990s (Douglas Fir and Hemlock). Litigation prevented work. Originally proposed as thinning and 'light' regeneration, but the 'collaborative' agreed to thinning only with a “13' radius around big trees”. Sold in 2005 to High Cascade on a tonnage basis – 45 acres, approximately ¾ mmbf. (Live crown ratios of 30 – 40 % are best for release; due to delay trees had self-pruned to an average of about 20%.] 1100 - 1145 – Pre-commercial Thinning Site (2420 Rd.) – View a previously thinned stand, completed in 2006/7. Discuss selection criteria, LSR/Matrix differences, thinning prescription/slash guidelines, and utilization potential. [Spencer's notes: Two thinning sites from last two years – first with small track machine, second with dozer. Prescription called for 11” dbh maximum; Jay McL. asked why not 16”? Some slash piles unburned.] 1200 - 1300 – Big Tree Site (8020 Rd.)– Lunch and presentation by Susan Hummel (Researcher - Pacific NW Research Station – Portland). Topic – Summary of past studies and new research opportunities created by the intersection of the Gotchen LSR planning area with the McDonald Ridge and Cold Springs fires. Meeting/Discussion: 1)Minutes of June 18, 2009 meeting approved. Moved by Peggy B.; 2nd by Terry T. 2)Todd Murray (WSU Extension Agent) provided Jamie T. with information on grants available from National Forest Foundation. - The EDC could be 'our' non-profit fiduciary agent. - Applications should emphasize sustainability and renewable energy (biomass). - Academic research component could be supplied by WSU. - Subcommittee to discuss and plan. Jay McL. will bring his relevant information to the group. - During discussion of woody biomass, Nancy R. suggested that the District could put up a biomass sale with research component, if we can find funds to analyze costs and benefits. 3)Jon Nakae was asked whether Collaborative Group members can volunteer to help GP staff with projects. Answer is that we have to be 'sponsored' volunteers. - In the case of Cave/Bear project, the help is more “technical”, so the RAC money allows the use of professional help via contract. - In both the paid and volunteer work, the F.S. has to set up the work in an orga nized manner – safety discussion, hours regulations, legal notice, etc. - Volunteers can e-mail Jon for details. 1315 - 1415 – Gotchen Fuels Reduction (8020 & 8225101/110 Jct.) – View two different treatments (slashbuster vs thin/pile/burn) to reduce the fuels loading in the Gotchen LSR area. Discuss historic conditions, diameter cap limitations, and Gotchen fuels reduction work completed to date. 1430 - 1500 – Aspen Restoration (8225060 Rd.) - View Gotchen Meadow (10 acres) after fencing (2006) and conifer removal/hand piling in 2008. 1515-1545 – Cold Spring Fire (8225150 Rd.)– View portions of the 2008 Cold Springs Fire. Discuss factors that led to a very limited fire salvage decision. 1600 -1615 – Gotchen LSR Shaded Fuelbreak (82 Rd.) – Discuss the overall Gotchen fuels reduction strategy in the 2004 EIS and the objective of the 82 road fuelbreak. 1645 – 1715 – (OPTIONAL) Glenwood Log Utilization Incubator Site – View Jay McLaughlin’s Incubator site for wood processing. Attendees: Jamie Tolfree, Paul Spencer, Tom Linde, Jay McLaughlin, Jim Mickel, Lisa Moscinski, Nancy Ryke, Jacob Anderson, Norm Ward, Jim White, Bruce Holmson, Terry Tanner, John Forsberg, Ray Thygesen, Gail Fullerton, Bob Gavenas, John Paul Anderson, Jon Nakae, Gail Bouchard | 
